CH3WNAS Firmware update
March 7, 2008
The Conceptronic CH3WNAS was having an issue with users having a large collection of AV media and it’s UPnP AV server.
version 1.04 will fix the processing of +10.000 files in UPnP AV mode
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Tags: 1.04, ch3wnas, conceptronic, firmware, large audio files, nas, server, UPnP
Dennis Slagers, just a guy from Holland
March 8th, 2008 at 1:45 am
i’ve been experiencing the same problem with ch3snas, i have more than 30.000 mp3 files, divided in multiple folders, and if if i select the root_share he does not recogniz the files and display’s “no music files found”. could this be related also with the problem mencioned above?
March 8th, 2008 at 7:57 am
Sorry, CH3SNAS should work fine with such amount. Please select the Volume_1 or Volume_2 and than make sure you enable the server again . .
in the new firmware the database is automatically updated
March 8th, 2008 at 10:02 am
Is version 1.04 now Beta or also a Final release like 1.03? Can i upgrade from 1.02 to 1.04 without problems, i have a Raid-1 array with 2 x 500 GB drives, all installed per default settings and fun_plug installed. Any hints?
regards
Michael Mrak
March 8th, 2008 at 10:49 am
i thought so it should work, but it doesn’t… the server only works when selecting a single folder. if it has more than one it will say “no music file found”…i’ve tested with all the firmware, but sorry to say, in 3 diferent ch3snas none of them works. enabling the root_share and using the streamer from conceptronic, at first each of them say’s “no music file found”, the second time, apears several folders, and then when i’m trying to read the music the server disapears from the network and the streaner displays “no server available” . i’m using dhcp with a wireless n router from conceptronic and in all 3 ch3snas happens the same problem. let me say that 30.000 is an understatment, in both drives combined i have 55.478 files in 2865 folders ;-)
please let me know…
rui
March 8th, 2008 at 11:09 am
If you have about 55.000 files it takes at least 10 to 30 minutes that the database is made.
and also: I cannot guarantee such amount of files do work with the standard UPnP AV server software
Try Twonky.
March 8th, 2008 at 11:10 am
Michael: CH3WNAS is NOT equal to CH3SNAS, for CH3SNAS there is NO 1.04 firmware
March 24th, 2008 at 5:51 pm
With version 1.04 i cannot access the library anymore from my Roku Soundbridge, with 1.03 i can (although i’m having troubles because of not allowed files / filenames)
Does anybody have the same config? Roku Soundbridge M1001 with Conceptronics CH3WNAS (and a linksys WRT54GS with latest DD-WRT)?
March 27th, 2008 at 1:49 pm
Hi Daniel,
It looks like they broke the DNLA funtionality in the new firmware.
I did some investigation on the box via telnet and it looks like the upnpav process is missing from the image. Thus cannot be started. So i’m back to 1.03 which has another problem with the upnpav server…It starts the process twice once for interface 0 (the 10/100/1000 NIC) and once for interface 1 (a non excisting interface) causing it to crash constantly. I fixed this by manually killing the wrong process on the ch3wnas but i’m really disappointed with this.
This probably happens because i have wireless disabled and have got it connected to my 1000 mbit switch.
I hope they fix this soon…
And can we install a newgroup downloader onto this machine?
March 27th, 2008 at 7:03 pm
it’s confirmed that 1.04 has a UPnP Server issue. I would have released today a new version if the index would not have been crashed with a segmentation fault.
Note: the new version will have a UPnP server disabled by default, you need the easy search utility to install the server.
Why?
With this new firmware we fix the issue that large indexes with data for the UPnP Server cannot be stored into the limited amount of memory the device has. The UPnP part will be stored ONTO the HDD now. This works, but only the index was not been able to finish ..
So expect soon an update version
April 18th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
“Note: the new version will have a UPnP server disabled by default, you need the easy search utility to install the server.”
How does that work? I just installed the firmware 1.04 and I can’t acces the UPnP AV SERVER anymore. In Easy Search I can’t found anything about a installation of this server…
Hopefully someone can help me….
April 18th, 2008 at 9:36 pm
@Michiel,
you need to install / use the NEW easy search utility
http://www.mixfreaks.nl/url/easysearch
at the right upperside you see the UPnP AV Server option click that ..
April 21st, 2008 at 12:34 am
hello,
can someone tell me what cpu is used in CH3WNAS?
will there be nfs or smb support in the future, so i can stream
files from my settop box (dbox2)? thx!
greetz
ding
April 21st, 2008 at 2:23 pm
ding: samba 2.x is supported, nfs will not be supported due to limited memory into the device
I believe that the processor is an 170 MHz Freescale MPC8241 with MPC603e Motorola PowerPC core. But not 100% sure
April 22nd, 2008 at 5:59 pm
thanks!
greetz
ding
April 27th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
I am having the same setup: CH3WNAS and Pinnacle Soundbridge HomeMusic. After upgrading to 1.04 the NAS didn’t appear anymore as an UnPn device in my network. Think I’m going to try 1.03 now…
April 27th, 2008 at 6:05 pm
Michiel and others: read the release notes !
the UPnP server is NOT present within the 1.04 firmware by default.
If you want/need the new UPnP Server with improved stability than you need to INSTALL the new Easy Search Tool as well. When running this utility you can install the UPnP Server from this tool and use it.
April 27th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
I tried that (using EasySearch) but it didn’t work at first. I guess it just took some time. Now when I try to scroll through artists or genre it only says: Others…
April 28th, 2008 at 5:49 am
Depending on how large your collection is, after installing the UPnP Server with the NEW easy seach utility, it can take up to 5 / 10 minutes for the database to be created
April 29th, 2008 at 11:43 am
I got it working if I:
1) install new firmware (1.04)
2) do an EasySearch 3900 Upnp install
When I reboot the NAS again my upnp devices can’t connect anymore… even not after I’ve waited for some large amount of time.
April 29th, 2008 at 8:54 pm
Some other issues (sorry for my complaining, I just want to make it work):
- the server appears twice on my SoundBridge. One doesn’t connect, the other one only works after step 1 and 2. NOT after a second reboot or when I killed the upnp processes and start upnpscript manually…
- when I browse \”artists\” it complains that receiving data failed
Other issue that IS better in this version btw: diacritics are readable now on my SoundBrigde.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Is there any way to change the way the track order of albums in which they get presented? Currently it seems that the server offers them in alphabetically order of the title, which is not really desirable if I listen to an album… wouldn\’t it be a better idea to use the track number for the order?
April 30th, 2008 at 11:42 am
PS: prepending track numbers to the file names doesn’t help either.
April 30th, 2008 at 11:56 am
I’m really surprise Michiel that you need to install every time the UPnP server
through the utility. there can be some reasons:
you run a fun_plug your own, the UPnP server itself will be installed ON your HDD and will also RUN through the fun_plug if I am correct. I can imagine that if you already run a fun_plug your own and it’s not accessible by the device itself it keeps not active after a reboot. So when using it: do not use other tools than default.
The device is using the Intel’s UPnP server tool and that is a very basic one, so there is not a very very advanced UPnP server implemented. Maybe there are alternatives: http://forum.dsmg600.info/f2-DSM-G600-General-Discussion.html
May 1st, 2008 at 6:14 pm
Hello Dennis,
I got Firefly (svn 1696) working now on the NAS under Gentoo. It works perfectly with my Pinnacle Soundbrige, so I’m very happy now.
May 13th, 2008 at 8:44 am
Hello Dennis,
Will there be new firmware for the CH3WNAS?
Is this new firmware able to spin down the harddisk?
I also hope that the improved Upnp will work with my soundbridge.
I now use 1.04 but this dous not work with my soundbridge. (yes i installed it with easysearch)
Thanx.
May 18th, 2008 at 12:23 pm
Hello,
i am using the ch3wnas and i would like to use the email logs but this does not work. my mailserver says “552 Mail with no Date header not accepted here” is this a known problem? and is there a workaroud for it?
With kind regards,
Henk
May 18th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
I will check that Henk ..
May 19th, 2008 at 10:47 am
Henk,
kun jij mij vertellen wat voor mailserver dit precies heeft?
eventueel waar we wat test mails naar toe kunnen sturen?
(mag prive mailen)
June 6th, 2008 at 9:55 pm
I managed to run mediatomb (next to firefly) on the ch3wnas:
http://michael-peeters.blogspot.com/2008/06/running-mediatomb-on-ch3wnas-natively.html
Thanks to the ppc-binaries, no need for playing with gentoo.
June 9th, 2008 at 11:27 am
It’s also possible to install firefly without gentoo:
http://michael-peeters.blogspot.com/2008/06/ch3wnas-and-firefly.html
very easy & highly recommended
July 9th, 2008 at 8:10 pm
With the new firmware 1.05 for CH3WNAS it seems that the contents of the UPNP directory are no longer updated. This also applies for the third party upnp server mediatomb. Although I specified a regular update interval of 30 min, new files are not recognized. Do you experience the same behavior and is there a solution for it?
Thanks
Markus
July 9th, 2008 at 9:07 pm
I believe you need to manually update the upnp server with the easysearch utility
cause the upnp server now will reside partly on the HDD
than it should update automatically
July 9th, 2008 at 10:27 pm
Hi Dennis,
I activated the upnp server with the easysearch utility, but unfortunately no change. There is no new easysearch utility, and with 1.04 everything worked fine. How is the refresh done? Is there a cron job running?
BR
Markus.
August 28th, 2008 at 7:27 pm
Hello Dennis,
I have the next problem with my new (1 week old) CH3WNAS.
If I remove the power plug off CH3WNAS all user configuration get lost (IP settings and so). After connecting the power plug it does not recognises the harddisk anymore. I need to use the reset button for about 10 seconds and then the harddisk is back but all my user settings are lost. I need to load my previous saved settings to get it all working. Don`t say keep the power plug on the unit. There is a battery inside I guess to hold these settings or does all the CH3WNAS have the same fault?
I use the latest firmware V1.05A, what else kan be wrong or must be done?
Thanks in advance,
Toon.
November 18th, 2008 at 2:21 am
Hi Dennis,
i have a problem with my new CH3WNAS. The Wlan performance is very slow. My transfer rate is 500 kbytes/s. A transfer over Wlan for a 700 MB File lasts 30 minutes. I have the newest Firmware installed (1.06). is this normal or can it be broken?
Thanks
Michael